i think he is an elite quarterback so defensive your definition. some people say an elite quarterback has to be looked top e. at the guy wins easily. joe flacco last year did everything he could to get his ravens to the super bowl. lee evans with his butterfingers and kicker missing the field- goal they would have won the super bowl last year >> grossman is not elite. everyone can be a lead. everyone can be elite quarterback and i think the overuse the word first of all and i think is being thrown around too much. >> quarterback controversy here. as coaches jim and johnson. this is a great storyline. what are there styles and you do you think will perform better in this environment >> i think john is going to perform better in this arena. he is round really tight. when they did the team picture here is the one that organized where everybody is going to stand but you have to have organization for that. he has to relax and i think john is way more laid-back and i think that will be what will be the difference today. >> i don't think you will be the d